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The Evolution of the Face: A Letter to Some Readers in Tennessee
 



Something strange recently happened to me in Tennessee. I wasn’t actually in Tennessee when it happened. The strangeness emanated from there–actually, from one spot in Tennessee–and eventually reached me here up in New England.
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<blockquote><p><img src="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/files/2008/12/chimpface600.jpg" alt="chimpface600.jpg" />Something strange recently happened to me in Tennessee. I wasn’t actually in Tennessee when it happened. The strangeness emanated from there–actually, from one spot in Tennessee–and eventually reached me here up in New England.</p>
<p>It started with a column I wrote in the October issue of Discover, about <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/discovermagazine.com/2008/nov/15-why-darwin-would-have-loved-botox?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://discovermagazine.com/2008/nov/15-why-darwin-would-have-loved-botox">the evolution of the human face</a>. Sometimes people write letters to the magazine about my pieces. My editors dropped a note to let me know that all at once they got <span style="text-decoration: line-through;">40</span> 60 letters about my column. All from the outskirts of Memphis. All pretty much identical in style and substance. Some had been written on a computer, but some were written by hand–young hands, judging from their appearance.</p>
<p>Here’s a sample…</p>
<p>“I enjoyed reading your article and was interested in the research done on how the face and its muscles work to make expressions. I however believe that the brain and facial expressions are not a byproduct of years of evolution but instead a fingerprint of intelligent design. You claim in your article, that the muscles of the face are the result of the transition of life from land to water, but where is the fossil record for the jump? None have been found. There is no proof of the evolution of water to land creatures.”</p>
<p>And a second…</p>
<p>“I would like to show you what I think may have happened. First off, there is the law of entropy. This law states that everything is in a state of going deeper into chaos. The brain could not have formed going from a blob of amino acid to a highly complex organ that is capable of generating the power that is does. That is going into a state of unity and order. According to natural laws, this is impossible. Only a creator is capable of doing this.”</p>
<p>And a third</p>
<p>“If the face is an irreducibly complex machine, which it is, it cannot evolve because the original face would be missing parts, which would make the whole machine non-fuctioning. This rules out the possibility of evolution in human faces.”</p>
<p>I don’t know if all these letters came from a single class or club. In any case, the folks at Discover asked me if I’d write something in response. So–to my correspondents from Tennessee:</p>
<p>Thank you all for your letters. I appreciate that you took the time to read my article. While I can’t write to all<span style="text-decoration: line-through;">forty</span> sixty of you individually, I want to respond to the overall gist of your letters.</p>
<p>A number of you stated that there is no evidence that the human face–or even humans, period–evolved. For instance, one writer claimed that there is no fossil record of the transition of life from water to land.</p></blockquote>
<p><img src="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/files/2008/12/new-tetra600.jpg" alt="new-tetra600.jpg" /></p>
<blockquote><p>Actually, there is a fossil record, and it’s getting more and more detailed every year. The best source of information at the moment is <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.ecolsys.38.091206.095546?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://arjournals.annualreviews.org/doi/abs/10.1146/annurev.ecolsys.38.091206.095546">a new review</a> written by three experts on the subject. They explain how paleontologists have found a number of fossils of fish with some–but not all–of the features found in land vertebrates. They’ve also found a lot of early land vertebrates that still had not yet evolved some of the anatomy found on land vertebrates today. The illustration above, from the review, shows just how many fossils of these early land vertebrates and their relatives have been discovered in rocks between 400 and 300 million years ago.</p>
<p>This is what you’d expect if life evolved.</p>
<p>When scientists compare the traits on all those species, they can judge which species are most closely related to each other, and use that information to draw an evolutionary tree. The land vertebrates alive today, including mammals, reptiles, and amphibians are represented by the brown and green arrows. The closest living fish relatives, according to this research, are lungfish and coelacanths (Dipnoi and Actinistia on the tree). As the tree shows, there are 19 different lineages paleontologists have discovered the branched off between our common ancestor with lungfish 410 million years ago, and the common ancestor of all land vertebrates alive today, which lived some 350 million years ago. Those extinct lineages mark the evolution, step by step, of our legs, arms, wrists, ankles, fingers, and toes. Do they mark every generation through this transition? Of course not–but no paleontologist would ever dream of finding fossils of every individual that ever lived. Instead, they judge how well each new fossil fits into the overall picture.</p>
<p>Scientists can also use other lines of evidence to test their hypothesis for how vertebrates came on land. The tree I’ve reproduced here makes it clear that our closest living aquatic relatives are lungfish and coelacanths–two very rare lineages that make up a half dozen species or so all told. Recently scientists compared a lot of DNA from from several species of fish–including lungfish–and land vertebrates. They got <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/msn271v1?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://mbe.oxfordjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/msn271v1">the same result</a> looking at genes that paleontologists get looking at bones: lungfish are our closest relatives.</p>
<p>The support that comes from different studies gives scientists confidence that they can look at fish to track the evolution of our faces. On fossils, they can look at scoops and troughs in bones that mark the places where muscles attached. And they can study muscles in the heads of living fish. A lamprey doesn’t have a dimpled smile, let alone a jaw. But it does have some of the same muscles as we have in our faces. These muscles develop from the same place in the heads of lamprey embryo and a human embryo. More closely related animals share more face muscles with us. Our closest relatives, the chimpanzees, have just about every muscle in our own face, and they produce the same expressions when they are stimulated. (See the illustration at the top of the post, from this <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/117917084/abstract?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://www3.interscience.wiley.com/journal/117917084/abstract">review</a> of face evolution from fish to humans.)</p>
<p>This is, again, the sort of pattern you’d expect from evolution. So there is, in fact, a lot of evidence documenting the evolution of the face from our fish ancestors–and more coming to light each year.</p>
<p>But many of you also make a different sort of claim: that evolution <em>could not have possibly</em> produced the face.</p>
<p>Let me explain why this is not the case.</p>
<p>One person wrote in that the laws of entropy, which drives the universe to chaos. “The brain could not have formed going from a blob of amino acid to a highly complex organ.”</p>
<p>But think about what happens every time a brain develops from nothing in a human embryo. How can this order emerge, if entropy rules? Because the laws of entropy do not prevent order from arising in a particular place. An embryo takes in energy to form its complex body, and it pumps out heat, increasing the entropy in the environment. <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.2973046?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1119/1.2973046">Entropy is likewise not a problem for evolution</a>, if there is enough energy to increase local order and a place to push the disorder. And our planet, getting energy from the sun and releasing heat back into space, provides just those conditions.</p>
<p>Some of you claimed that the face could not evolve because it is an “irreducibly complex” system. If you take one part away from it, it does not work. But that’s not actually the case. Think about it–chimpanzees and other primates have most of the facial muscles that we do–but not all of them. In other words, they are missing some parts of the human face. But their faces are not “non-functioning” as one letter-writer claimed. They make plenty of faces–although they cannot make as many faces as we can.</p>
<p>You don’t even have to leave our own species to see that our faces are not “irreducibly complex.” Many people are <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/dx.doi.org/10.1037/1528-3542.8.3.435?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/');" href="http://dx.doi.org/10.1037/1528-3542.8.3.435">lacking one or more muscles in the face</a>, but their faces work normally. Botox paralyzes some muscles in the face–knocking out several parts of this supposedly irreducibly complex face. It may be hard for people with Botox to frown, but they can still smile and produce other facial expressions. That’s hardly non-functional.</p>
<p>The links in my response take you to several scientific papers. Actually, there are many, many more on the topics I’ve discussed. I’d encourage you to take the plunge and learn more about the face and its evolution. I’d hope you’d find it as fascinating as I do.</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Bizarre&#8221; New Dinosaur: Giant Raptor Found in Argentina
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<p><a href="http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sciencedaily/~3/i-0Rcy8qbkQ/081215111309.htm">Over 1,000 Species Discovered In The Greater Mekong In Past Decade</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Darwinian answers to social questions &#124; Why we are, as we are  &#124; The Economist.
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<p><a href="http://blog.wired.com/wiredscience/2008/12/evolutionexampl.html">12 Elegant Examples of Evolution</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[Following a discussion on our forum here is a summary from BalbKubrox of the recent discussion in the Guardian;
It started with an interview accorded by the great man to the Guardian religious correspondent Riazat Butt on 20 or 21 December at an undisclosed location in the suburbs of Istanbul: the gated development where Oktar hangs out in [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Following a discussion on our forum here is a summary from BalbKubrox of the <a href="http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/blog/2008/dec/22/atlas-creationism-adnan-oktar-harun-yahya" target="_self">recent discussion</a> in the Guardian;</p>
<blockquote><p>It started with an interview accorded by the great man to the Guardian religious correspondent Riazat Butt on 20 or 21 December at an undisclosed location in the suburbs of Istanbul: the gated development where Oktar hangs out in a heavily guarded flat furnished (to judge from the accompanying photo) rather like Gracelands. Ms. Butt plainly did her best to be sympathetic, but Oktar still emerges from the interview as not only just about as daft as a mortal creature can be, but also decidedly sinister and surrounded by menacing acolytes. As to the intellectual level of his remarks, one quote will suffice: </p>
<p><em><strong>&#8220;There is not one single fossil showing that humans evolved. For example, a 100-million-year-old crocodile, it didn&#8217;t transform into a professor after a while.&#8221;</strong></em><strong> </strong></p>
<p>The subsequent blog extended over an entire week and although it was quite entertaining and even a bit enlightening over the first three days or so - the Christmas holiday here so people had time on their hands - later on degenerated into the usual personal slanging match between three or four obsessives. As for the pro-Oktar contributors, the tone of their remarks is pretty well summed up by the first post, from one Melis: </p>
<p><em><strong>This is a great interview! Mr. Adnan Oktar (Harun Yahya) is a very well known author in Turkey. He has been the means to make people realize this lie of evolution or graduation throughout our country; as well as all around the world. Now, not only adults but school children are also not believing that human beings have any connection with apes. Just looking at a few fossils and seeing that the animals and plants have not changed for hundreds of millions of years is enough to see this fact. I hope the world will realize this truth as soon as possible, it is surely to their own benefit. I thank him for displaying his entire books free of charge at his website.</strong></em><strong> </strong></p>
<p>and by (almost) the last, from muguette: </p>
<p><em><strong>It is obvious that the correspondent named Riazat Butt did not make this interview after a through research about the author. If she did, she&#8217;d probably not write such a subjective article and make any comments as we see in the last paragraph. First of all a person like her should respect people fulfilling their religious obligations. But may be we should excuse her because of her Hindu background, knowing not enough about Islam. THat is surely what befalls to a Muslim.</strong></em><strong> </strong></p>
<p>So nothing unfamiliar here: Muslim variants of the standard Christian Creationist arguments that (i) it&#8217;s true because I say it is and (ii) people who criticise Creationism are disqualified from doing so by the fact of their not being bible-believing Christians. What was quite interesting however - and not a little disturbing - was the intervention after a day or so of posters like scientifique who appeared not to be Oktar henchmen but scientifically literate Turks studying in France who&#8217;d apparently stumbled across the debate rather than having been put up to taking part in it. ElliottCB, gpwayne, myself and a host of other bloggers tried to enter into some sort of rational debate with these people, and for a while it looked as though we might be getting somewhere. But in the end Turkish patriotism seems to have triumphed and they left in a huff saying that we were all being beastly to this great Turkish thinker. </p>
<p>Of Christian anti-evolution contributors there was only one, roomwithaview, who turns up regularly on other Guardian blogs and seems to have wider mental issues. </p>
<p>All rather depressing really, to see so many stone-deaf people with LOUD VOICES. But several of us did point out gently that Muslim small-c creationists and Christian big-C ones make uncomfortable bedfellows, because not only do our fundies believe that all Muslims are going to Hell when they die, they don&#8217;t even agree on the &#8220;science&#8221; such as the age of the Earth. I hope that a little of this information managed to sink in. </p>
<p>The only new element in any of this was the Turkish slant. The Turkish students&#8217; society at our local university seems to contain a number of rather disturbing people, to go by the blood-curdling threats they leave on toilet walls, and although so far as I&#8217;m aware they haven&#8217;t signed up yet for Adnan Oktar, if they did then they might be very militant supporters indeed. Part of Oktar&#8217;s pitch, after all, is the same as theirs: that there is a hierarchy among humans with Turks at the top and Jews, Greeks, Armenians and other riff-raff at the bottom.</p></blockquote>
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<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news148653696.html">Scientists fool bacteria into killing themselves to survive</a></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[A fascinating first instalment (of three) from one of the key witnesses in the famous &#8220;Dover vs Kitzmiller&#8221; trial in the US, Ken Miller.
The Discovery Institute in the US provided the materials sent to every UK school by the ironically labelled UK creationist group &#8220;Truth in Science&#8221;.  Their spokesman Casey Luskin is efficiently dissected when he tries to [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A fascinating <a href="http://blogs.discovermagazine.com/loom/2009/01/02/smoke-and-mirrors-whales-and-lampreys-a-guest-post-by-ken-miller/" target="_blank">first instalment</a> (of three) from one of the key witnesses in the famous &#8220;Dover vs Kitzmiller&#8221; trial in the US, Ken Miller.</p>
<p>The Discovery Institute in the US provided the materials sent to every UK school by the ironically labelled UK creationist group &#8220;Truth in Science&#8221;.  Their spokesman Casey Luskin is efficiently dissected when he tries to resurrected the already discredited argument from creationists call &#8220;irreducible complexity&#8221;.</p>
<p>A couple of extracts (but please go read the whole thing);</p>
<blockquote><p>Casey seems to forget — or to ignore — the fact that Behe has never even attempted to do any scientific research to show that he is right. He ignores the fact that ID’s critics have produced a boatload of research showing Behe to be wrong while Behe himself has done no research on the system that might support Luskin. As a result, his attempts at rehabilitating the clotting cascade as an “icon” of ID are a complete failure.  So, for the umpteenth time, let’s go through this again.</p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>Why is it OK to give high school readers an argument about the irreducible complexity of the entire cascade that you know to be false (as Luskin admits), just as long as you modify that argument in another book?  Luskin seems to have forgotten that the Dover trial was about an issue much more important than the fate of ID…. It was about what should be taught to high school science students.  And, in that respect, the arguments in Pandas were the ones that really mattered.  And those arguments, as my friend Casey Luskin has implicitly admitted in his <a onclick="javascript:urchinTracker('/outbound/www.evolutionnews.org/2008/12/how_kenneth_miller_used_smokea.html?ref=http_//www.google.com/reader/view/?tab=qy');" href="http://www.evolutionnews.org/2008/12/how_kenneth_miller_used_smokea.html" target="_blank">first web posting</a>, were completely wrong.  Too bad he didn’t spin that message at the trial.</p>
<p>. . .</p>
<p>So, what are we left with?  Nothing more than a vain attempt to pretend that ID’s collapse in the Dover case was the result of misrepresentation and deception.  For Mr. Luskin and his employers at the Discovery Institute, the generation of sound and fury continues, but in scientific terms, their continuing noise signifies nothing more than the utter emptiness of their failed ideas.</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[A simple fusion to jump-start evolution
Dinosaur Dads Took Care of Nest
&#8216;Hobbit&#8217; Fossils Represent A New Species, Concludes Anthropologist
Life&#8217;s founding organism kept its cool, researchers say
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news148844248.html">A simple fusion to jump-start evolution</a></p>
<p><a href="http://sciencenow.sciencemag.org/cgi/content/full/2008/1218/1?rss=1">Dinosaur Dads Took Care of Nest</a></p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sciencedaily/~3/bGEGuk0jqos/081217124418.htm">&#8216;Hobbit&#8217; Fossils Represent A New Species, Concludes Anthropologist</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=1087366" target="_blank">Life&#8217;s founding organism kept its cool, researchers say</a></p>
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		<title>News Round - The money behind &#8220;Expelled&#8221;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[ A fascinating interview with the man who funded the infamously silly &#8220;documentary&#8221; which equated scientists with Nazi&#8217;s whilst achieving critical armageddon here.
A couple of extracts;
The documentary links such scientists to Nazis. The reaction was what one would expect.
&#8220;We wanted to generate anger,&#8221; Ruloff said.
&#8220;We always knew we&#8217;d get extreme anger on the one side and extreme [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p> A fascinating interview with the man who funded the infamously silly &#8220;documentary&#8221; which equated scientists with Nazi&#8217;s whilst achieving critical armageddon <a href="http://www.vancouversun.com/news/apologies/1137038/story.html">here</a>.</p>
<p>A couple of extracts;</p>
<blockquote><p>The documentary links such scientists to Nazis. The reaction was what one would expect.</p>
<p>&#8220;We wanted to generate anger,&#8221; Ruloff said.</p>
<p>&#8220;We always knew we&#8217;d get extreme anger on the one side and extreme support on the other. We also think we got extreme interest in the middle.&#8221;</p>
<p>Even though evangelical leaders such as Focus on the Family&#8217;s James Dobson cheered Expelled for accusing the scientific establishment of shunning researchers who believe &#8220;intelligent design&#8221; is inherent in the universe; most film critics went ballistic after the documentary&#8217;s April 18 release.</p>
<p>I believe there are some reasonable arguments in Expelled. But the documentary hits extremely hard with its message. It has caused bitter polarization.</p>
<p>Throughout our conversation, I probed Ruloff about whether Expelled did more harm than good for the cause of forging more creative links between science and spirituality.</p>
<p>For instance, the website Rotten Tomatoes, which tallies up movie reviews across North America, reported that only 10 per cent of reviewers ranked Expelled positively.</p>
<p>Rotten Tomatoes&#8217; &#8220;consensus&#8221; of critics&#8217; opinion on Expelled was that it is, &#8220;Full of patronizing, poorly structured arguments &#8230; a cynical political stunt in the guise of a documentary.&#8221;</p>
<p>That compares to the 83 per cent of all critics who rated positively Michael Moore&#8217;s documentary, Fahrenheit 911.</p>
<p>The New York Times&#8217; film critic called Expelled &#8220;the sleaziest documentary of all time.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jeannette Matsoukis wrote: &#8220;Blithely ignoring the vital distinction between social and scientific Darwinism, the film links evolution theory to fascism (as well as abortion, euthanasia and eugenics), shamelessly invoking the Holocaust with black-and-white film of Nazi gas chambers and mass graves.&#8221;</p>
<p>Ruloff seemed to revel in being dismissed by the mainstream. Despite his financial wealth, he sees himself as a cultural outsider. On this idyllic island near Vancouver, where he and his family have lived for 13 years, Ruloff described the delight Expelled&#8217;s filmmakers had in capitalizing on the hostile review in The New York Times and elsewhere.</p>
<p>. . .</p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p>In an interview this summer with the National Post newspaper, Stein is quoted saying it was Ruloff who initially &#8220;got in touch with me and said he wanted to do something about Darwinism and how it leads to social Darwinism, which leads to Nazism and the Holocaust.&#8221;</p>
<p>But Ruloff said it was actually Stein. Because of his Jewish heritage, Ruloff said, Stein came up with the idea of linking scientific Darwinism to the concentration camps. &#8220;It was always Ben Stein. He was fascinated with the underlying scenarios for mass-scale eugenics.&#8221;</p>
<p>Whatever the case, Ruloff does not hide that he &#8220;absolutely&#8221; agrees with many points Expelled makes linking Darwinism to abortion and eugenics and death camps. Darwinism does so, he said, because it does not accept &#8220;the sanctity of life.&#8221;</p></blockquote>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8216;Hobbit&#8217; fossils represent a new species, concludes UM anthropologist
Earth&#8217;s original ancestor was LUCA, study on origins of life
Giant Dinosaur Fossil Found in Sahara Desert
Evolutionary Roots Of Ancient Bacteria May Open New Line Of Attack On Cystic Fibrosis
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news148741116.html">&#8216;Hobbit&#8217; fossils represent a new species, concludes UM anthropologist</a></p>
<p><a href="http://www.physorg.com/news148741334.html">Earth&#8217;s original ancestor was LUCA, study on origins of life</a></p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/Livesciencecom/~3/487872958/081217-sahara-bones.html">Giant Dinosaur Fossil Found in Sahara Desert</a></p>
<p><a href="http://feeds.sciencedaily.com/~r/sciencedaily/~3/op45cNM6ssM/081216133432.htm">Evolutionary Roots Of Ancient Bacteria May Open New Line Of Attack On Cystic Fibrosis</a></p>
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